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The real question to ibn teymiyyah should have been how dare you describe ALLAH'S istiwa as ur sitting on the minbar

This was almost something great, but it was ruined by the goofy hobbit voice you gave to Ibn Arabi.

hmmmm, I do not think that these two geniuses would have fallen into any disagreements if they met. Everyone tries to push the greats to disagreement, but in truth each is working in different areas...they may be workers in the house but not both trying to paint the same wall. Rather one works on the foundation, another on the walls, another paints, another furnishes...it would be silly to say that the wall painter and the furnisher disagree because one uses the colour white and the other red. It is possible to have white walls and a red coach. Ibn Arabi works concerning the experience of the Divine, while Ibn Rush'd works on the knowledge of the divine...actually, there is not even much room where they could disagree even if they wanted to. A baker can argue with another baker about how to cook, but it would be ridiculous for him to argue with a brewer of tea. And, as Ibn Rush'd would have pointed out, Aristotle himself agrees with Ibn Arabi - for Aristotle says: "One doesn't come to religion for knowledge, but for experience." Philosophy must limit itself to the knowledge of the Divine, but religion should strive for the experience of the Divine.

Ghazali arguments sounds like logical fallacies

Ibn Tayamih like Moses is right in his understanding and we as muslims should strictly follow his way...but Ibn Arabi is like that 'man of knowledge' moses met when the fish found its way to the water, when moses felt he is the only one with knowledge and God sent him to look fo that 'man of knowledge'!!!

neither of them can explain why prophet muhammad could have 8 wives and a concubine at a time while his followers were only allowed 4 😂

Hazarat ibne arabi r.a ❤❤❤❤

Very nice graphic 🎉🎉

Ibn Arabi is correct Ibn Tammiya is wrong

Excellent job so far. Keep it up. May Allah assist you in your good endeavors.

Ibn tamiyyah enemy of alhlubayt.

I don't think the debate is actually from Imam Ghazali & Imam Ibn Rushd, rather created by the RUclipsr's own script. How can Imam Ghazali say the sun has always (eternally) existed while knowing it part of the Islamic Core believe system in Akhira, once the Judgment Day will be established there will be no more Earth or Sun. Moreover there was a time when Allah created the Sun, at the time of creation of Universe. It is not eternally existed.

Such a great content that I cannot not even articulate it. Every statement of Ibn Arabi needs deep contemplation and reflection.

Omw ğet to the point

Good AI created debate lol

Wonderful simple guide to understand two faculties: reason and intuition ( Akhal and Wijdan). The present day Muslim societies need to focus on knowledge obtained through sense perception. Their over-emphasis on outer aspects of Islam has led to their downfall in all fields, be it economic, Scientific, Technology, and Mathematics. Is it not a fact that out of 57 Muslim countries, only one country has an atom bomb; this shows that STEM have taken a back seat in 1500 years of civilization, whereas the USA, and most of G7 countries with 350 years of civilization have made strides in the real of science and technology. The need of the hour is synergies from Shaik Ibne Arabi and Ibne Rushd and Imam Razi.

the deen is simple follow the prophet pbuh, worship Allah sincerely by using the sunnah and not using yoir own interpretation most likely christians did, best way to paradise is to do the sunnah of the prophet pbuh.. as simple as that.. deen is simple.. Alnaql qablal aqal..

Me personally see's that both of them are right i.e. one copmletes other's idea in which every person has his own way to worship but in the same time these acts of worshipness should point out to the unity of the creater❤❤

Good... please study mulla sadra, avicenna, The burhan al-siddiqin, Shia Islam and Henry Corbin too.

Both of these guys have led Muslims in perdition ! Were they mandated by Allah to divide Muslims!? The Holy Prophet صلى الله عليه و اله و سلم said : I'm leaving two weighy things among you; the book of Allah & My Household (Ehlul Bait عليهم الصلاة و السلام) They won't separate until they meet Me at the pond ! And the Holy Quran says : قُل لَّا أَسْأَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا إِلَّا الْمَوَدَّةَ فِي الْقُرْبَىٰ ۗ (Say, I'm not asking due for what (Islam)I brought to you, except compassion for My Household ) Sufism has been condemned by Ehlul Bait عليهم الصلاة و السلام and Ibn Taymiya لعنة الله عليه disgraced Imam Ali عليه الصلاة و السلام denying all His virtues. Scholars agree on a point that 300 ayats were revealed praising Imam Ali عليه الصلاة و السلام ! Sufis do say that Imam Ali عليه الصلاة و السلام is Imam ul Awliyah, but never really mean it !

I understand how the comments here are more towards ghazali pov. Well it shows how the people generally lean towards things that are supernatural. If you study both of them with a sane and a practical mind. You will know ibne rushd was right. Its just that his opinion since is more practical, is lesser acceptable to people who generally tend to live in there magical world scenarios. The laws of nature itself are miracles of Allah.

So living a religious life we also still need a cultural life because cultures provides what is different to life than what religion provides. Culture is the difference between coastal people and mountain people. Coastal people eat more fish and mountain people eat more cattle’s than sea food. Religion informs of the truth of world and guides belief. The home built in the dessert is known as a Mesa which a home built in forests is built from wood and thatch. Should the one who builds mesas tell the one who lives in forest that Mesas are the only right way to build a home?

Pretty sure this is AI generated , but a nice intellectual endevour

Wow. The comments section... where people, either purposely or unknowingly, put their own soul in jeopardy. The end result... too many sins for any human to bear the weight of.

Ibn arabi is a legend 🙌

Love the content keep it coming ❤

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نحن مسنا الضر وين الامه الاسلاميه بكيت متنا من القهر لمن اشكي يا ناس نحن نموت من الجوع والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وكامل اسرتي تشردنا من بيوتنا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ والله تعبت من هذا الدنيا والله ياخوان تعبت اختك في حال ميعلم به الا الله وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ ٥نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا انَيَ دخلة على الله ثمَّ عليكِ اني في وجه الله ثم في وجهك اني اترجاك اتوسل اليك تساعدني لوجه الله. الله يَأْخي منَ الصَبَاحُ حُتا الان يَحُرّم علينا الاكل غير الماء اني اقسم بالله العلي العظيم على كتاب الله اني بنت يتيمه من ومعي اخوان صغار اقسم بالله على كتاب الله ان اخوتي ماعاد يقدرو ينطقو بكلمة من شدت الجوع وبيتنا ايجار وصاحب البيت مقدر ضروفنا يريد الإجار او بيخرجنا إلى الشارع و اني اسالك بالله وانشدك بمحمد رسول الله يا اخي لوانت مسلم وتحب الخير انك تساعدني بقدر استطاعتك ان تتواصل معي او تراسلني وتساب على هذا الرقم +967716649494 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولا تتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اني بنت يمنيه نازحين منالحرب انا واسرتي بيتنا اجار الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع فيااخي انت رجال إذا شفت اسرتك جاوعين تعمل المستحيل من اجل تامن لهم الاكل ولكن انابنت عيني بصيره ويدي قصيره ليس لي اب مثلك يسمح دمعتى ويحمينى من الذل والاهانة .🥺واخواني سغار ساعدنا انقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع نتبهدل او نموت من الجوع انا اقسم بالله الذي رفع سبع سموات بلا عمد وبسط الارض ومهداني لااكذب عليك بحرف من هذا الرساله واني ماطلبتك إلى من ضيق وقسوت الضروف والحال الذي احنافيه واني وأسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعدتنا انك لتاخر علينا احنا في اشد الحاجة والضروف القاسيه جزاك الله خير الجزا وحسبي الله ونعم الوكيل ولا حول ولا قوه الا بالله الذي يقدر يساعدنا ;-'-"!;'(')"\|ااا😢😢🎉🎉\(/()\|¶:)'|\\>|\≧@♢♢◀◀)♧]♧}♧ا}..،.

those arguing a division over these two God-fearing men are idiots

They are both right since there are two principles of creation they are clearly defined in the Quran those that disbelieve are also given the rights they deserve but those that believe are given the right of eternity since time is God's right only and no one else's.

Two of my most favorite intellectuals of islamic history

Great 🎉 Thanks you so much!

Ibn Arabi - he's correct Ibn Taymiyyah - he understood that dumb masses won't get it Even Mohammad PBUH explained things differently to differently capable people.

I don't understand the incorruptible world concept (and everything else really). Is it as if the world is indestructible by nature?

I really loved them both. I felt like they both created some kind of balance in my understanding and reflection of Allah swt and Islam. Both seemed right in their own way.

Wow! Really enjoyed the video! Imam Al Ghazzali's logic is irrwfuta here. But one thing is needed to mention here that, imagining time has a beginning was quite hard on that time. But now we know scientifically that time has a beginning.

7:13 Is there a car in their time?

Allah bless ibn arabi rehamtulla both people are right one is looking at the water while the other looks at the jug that is holding that water both are needed and both have purpose.

The unity of being = kuffer

Suffism is kuffer.

Ibn Taymiyya the prophet of the salafist wahabis

Ibn Arabi has no comparison with Ibn Taimiyah who created his own madhab and created a divide within Ummah. Ibn e Arabi was at the apex of spirituality.

Al Arabi is the clear winner.

In the End of his life , Ibn Taymiya finished acknowledging that sufi people are right. They were on the right

In the End of his life , Ibn Taymiya finished acknowledging that sufi people are right. They were on the right path. Mashallah, Sufi are true muslims

Al ghazali was correct

I feel grounded and empowered when listening to IbnRushd. Al Ghazali makes me feel helpless like a dry leaf which goes everywhere the wind blows. Ultimately I accept that both are true. But as humans we operate by causality that the Creator determines. Of course when the outcome is not to your expectation be it positive or negative , “Ghazalizing” the situation glorifies God as the ultimate Cause. Ibn Rushd is more practical in my humble opinion. Looking into history and around us, the species and nations who dominate are those who master causality.

Am not a scholar of Islam but the beauty of nature and goodness in humans ...staring at the stars reminds me of how much more Beautiful Allah is ..

Dancing sufis dont debate they tell fairy tales and lies

What is the dajjal level activity